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Max the Annoyed's avatar

Alan, I just want to thank you. This subject seems, for everyone else, impossible to address without veering into one stupidity or another, while this has adroitly side-stepped them all.

Alan Schmidt's avatar

Thank you for the praise. This article went through several false starts, so I'm glad the final product resonated so much.

Viddao's avatar

Another macro vs micro problem.

Ben Mordecai's avatar

The good news is that quitting porn can be done in a way that is easy and enjoyable.

Most porn users know that it is bad for themselves, for their own souls and embarrassing. Yet they are driven by fear and stress and mild withdrawal symptoms to keep going in perpetuity.

The truth is you can be done with it for good in a way that is not miserable at all, but easy and enjoyable. If anyone wants to know the way, just ask.

Dronom!'s avatar

Are you talking about Easy Peasy? It's very effective.

Aurigena's avatar

I don't really understand the focus on porn/masturbation as a special kind of vice. Sure, jacking off to porn is bad, I agree with you that it'd be better to have more prostitution than more porn, but I think it just falls into the general category of "things that are bad for you and really easy to get", like fast food and algorithmic slop.

You mentioned the supposedly glorious effects of No Fap, but it seems more likely to me that positive effects people get are more psychological than physiological. I tried it as someone who generally tries not to center porn on my life, and found that the only real effect was that I got horny a lot easier. This isn't really that convenient of an effect, and while I got passed the initial hump of difficulty and probably would've been able to continue maintaining it, spending more time thinking about sex made me less productive.

Also, masturbating/porn are not equivalent vices. Porn, at least in it's modern form, is highly addictive internet slop, while masturbating is just one way to release sexual energy. For men, or at the very least for men like me, sexual energy builds up over time and releases during orgasm. Whether that orgasm comes from masturbating, a wet dream, or actual sex is irrelevant, and I actually think the prevalence of wet dreams is evidence that even when you try not to, you will at some point be forced to release that energy.

The idea that orgasms drain your life force seems like bad superstition. The effects of not masturbating seem more like placebo, and I disagree that in a world without porn and masturbation men are much more violent and manly. I think a world without porn and masturbation is a world where men are moderately more uncomfortable all the time and more likely to act on sexual urges that they may have otherwise not acted on. Maybe that world is marginally better, but I doubt it's significantly different in the way you described.

elioc997472's avatar

A bajillion words to tell me to lock in.

And I'm here for it.

As one other commenter has said, thanks for addressing this.

Siddhesh's avatar

Thanks for writing, the timing of this in relation to my own life couldn't have been better

Acetic Romantic's avatar

Everyone should be forced to read my article "When They Try to Help Us". You guys always write stuff like this, supposedly trying to be helpful, and then it's just walls of text about how young men have been castrated and raped. I am superior to "nofappers" even though I jizz like a firetruck. You people know nothing, you just leverage your stooge role endlessly to inflate yourself.

Alan Schmidt's avatar

You can link your article. I don't care. https://substack.com/home/post/p-181095239

Congrats on your firehose penis.

Acetic Romantic's avatar

What good is linking it if you just ignore it?

Max the Annoyed's avatar

Having read your piece, I don’t think you actually read the above if you think it’s at all relevant.

Anyway, here’s your (you).

Max the Annoyed's avatar

Yeah, I did actually read your stream-of-consciousness self-indulgent navel-gazing about how everyone except incels are uncool sell-out stooges of the system. It simply wasn’t very good. Nobody cares what Obama is doing in 2025 and MGTOW by their own choices are historically irrelevant. You can posture about being cooler and hipper and more satisfied than everyone else (who of course you don’t actually need, like, or want anyway) but nobody’s fooled, least of all when you barge in to the spaces of those people you don’t need flinging feces.

P.S. talking about “jizzing like a firetruck” is bad advertizing.

Acetic Romantic's avatar

Yea here we have the classic "I did read your piece, but I was shaking my head the entire time!". You actually have to approach things with a fresh, non-ideological mindset if you want to read them, otherwise it just looks like the partisan bunkus you vomited up here.

Max the Annoyed's avatar

“Okay, you might’ve read it, but you just don’t get it, man!”

Why are you here? By your own confession in your piece you don’t even like or need us normal people.

Acetic Romantic's avatar

I'll always comment insultingly on these pieces because they are just losers, envied by nobody, who complied with the libtard system and now want to hold their goodies over other people and gossip about them. They're worthless.

Ben Mordecai's avatar

Do you want to be done with porn forever? And to enjoy quitting?

C.Danicic's avatar

“While it is natural for a man to get aroused by a naked woman, there is nothing natural about a man jerking off watching another man’s conquests. In the most charitable interpretation, it’s trying to live vicariously through the actors on the screen, reveling in an ecstasy he can’t have. In reality, it’s equivalent to sitting in the cuck chair. He’s degrading himself. He knows it, but just wants the insatiable, uncomfortable male energy to dissipate.”

A very succinct and accurate analysis of porn use. Imagine the amount of time and accomplishment lost every year to porn consumption.

Jason's avatar

Porn is the perfect scapegoat for perceived social ills and that is why it’s condemned by all sides of the political spectrum. Here are some reasons it’s the perfect scapegoat:

1. Everyone uses porn. Left-right-center… everyone consumes porn. So progressives are now blaming misogyny and the popularity of the far-right among young men, on access to porn. Right-wingers blame lgbt-related issues and lack of family formation on porn. Centrists are blaming political radicalism on porn. Every man consumes porn, and all sides of the political spectrum love beating up on the socially acceptable demographic to beat up on.

2. Porn allows intellectuals to dismiss complaints made by men and focus on psychoanalysis. You never have to address the issues, you can just blame porn and engage in psychoanalysis over factual analysis. “Porn ruined young men’s brains and that’s why they have these dangerous political views.”

3. Porn consumption for men, like all male sexuality, is viewed as gross. Women bragging about their vibrators and smut is sexy. So condemning pornography is an easy way to dunk on men and call them losers, but it doesn’t have the same effect on women. Women are sexy when they speak openly about “self-care.” And many women in the entertainment industry, and many female intellectuals, do so openly.

4. Porn is an easy way for men to shift responsibility for their failures away from themselves and onto an “addiction.” So now the individual man isn’t the problem, video games and porn are the problem. I see this among Christian men often.

Alan Schmidt's avatar

"Porn consumption for men, like all male sexuality, is viewed as gross"

I spent most of the article explaining why porn and masturbation are not a natural part of male sexuality.

Brassica Supertramp's avatar

Your claim that people stretch reason to make the issue political is largely true. I think this article is less than perfect for trying to re-direct reformist energy to other political causes.

That said, “everyone uses it” is not true. I quit many years ago. You should also. Not to own the _____, but to be a good husband. God be with you.

Dronom!'s avatar

I never thought of cracking hog as worse than prostitution, but putting some thought behind it, it makes sense. Wow!

Brettbaker's avatar

Lift up the whores, cut down the hookah users seems like a useful social renewal agenda.

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Alan Schmidt's avatar

You are wrong. It is common through middle age.

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Alan Schmidt's avatar

Better than being the embodiment of the "but how does this affect you personally?" meme.

Squilon's avatar

Sure thing, “fur baby parent”. Pathetic.

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Squilon's avatar

No, I think dogs are dogs and people are people. A human can’t be a “parent” to an animal, if you think a dog is your baby then you are either wildly deluded or sick.

A dog can be your pet, but it can never be your child. If you’re replacing your natural instinct for procreation and child rearing with an inferior simulacrum you should at least be aware of it.

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Squilon's avatar

I know you would, because you’re mentally ill, and in a kinder world you would be put down like a rabid dog.

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