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Spiff's avatar

While culture changes in fits and starts and there is a distinct homogenization happening all over the globe...

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This doesn't seem to be happening anywhere. Groups don't mix much. America's version, with Italians eventually marrying the Irish and even the WASPs (to pick one example) was unusual because American culture -- Anglo culture -- was so strong. The Italians were so keen to become American many refused to speak Italian to their children and often gave them English names.

Now its own people seek to undermine it, as if American culture is something to be discarded, but it still doesn't change anything. The newcomers are not mixing. No one in India thinks Vivek Ramaswamy is American, for example. Only Westerners entertain these ideas. None of the immigrants want multiculturalism because no one can survive it. Everyone eventually is forced to carve out some territory just for basic safety.

Homogenization isn't happening anywhere. Global homogenization, globohomo, is a strategy that is failing. It seems to have devolved into us shipping out junk food, feminism and porn to a totally unprepared world with devastating effects. Obesity is on the rise in the Gulf States due to American junk food outlets, if you can believe that. And I suspect feminism will destroy the Far East and ultimately the Islamic world too.

Shipping the global south to America and Europe just creates strife. It homogenizes nothing. If anything it polarizes to extremes. The end result I suspect will be the emergence of tribalism across the globe, not homogenization.

Viddao's avatar

As for public propaganda in America, the founding fathers are ALWAYS a good choice. Largely, they hated democracy and also cautioned against licentiousness. Quote John Adams and George Washington! Their own ideological diversity also helps because you can pick and choose the right quotes for the right topic. Cautioning against foreign influence? There's a quote for that. The ills of democracy? There's a quote for that. Distinguishing between liberty and licentiousness? There are also quotes for that.

Generally, your message should be tailored towards said nation, both because us right-wingers are generally patriotic, and also it is practically successful with normal people. The right-wing message in America should be distinctly American, in Britain distinctly British, in Germany distinctly German, etc.

Max the Annoyed's avatar

What do you call a group of deracinated whites, blacks, Asians, and South Americans? Nothing, because none of those things has any reason to be together, let alone stay together.

Peter Maguire's avatar

Lots of old Weathermen in the shadows of BLM. Even the logos are the same. I think the Brotherhood of Eternal Love was the radical group that had the most significant impact during the 1960s. While their politics were largely utopian, they manufactured @100 million hits of LSD and basically gave it away.

dzholopago's avatar

In contrasting the present wave of immigrantion with past waves, you note that the "newcomers also have a long story, just not in this country, and an interest in diluting the American mythos to give themselves a place. While this has worked with other minorities like the Italians, Irish, etc.[,] it remains to be seen whether the American narrative can survive the influx of Asians and South Americans."

In your final paragraph, you allow for the possibility that "[t]his might be the final transition from nation to empire..."

I would offer that the Heritage or Anglo-Americans proceeded to deracinate themselves starting pretty early in the 19th century, for the sake of cheap labor and bodies to settle the continent all the way to the Pacific. Germans, Irish, and Scandanavians, at least, preceded the Eastern European waves. We could say that's when everyone in Italy became Roman citizens, if we want historical analogies.

If we're looking for the final transition from nation to empire, that came through the assimilation of the first half of the 20th century. So the paper-thin identity of Americanism featured in the much-maligned "Postwar Consensus" was already the imperial identity, the point at which everyone inside the frontiers became Roman citizens.

Louis Wain's avatar

What do you think about patriot front? They seem to be the group most leaning into historical America and distancing themselves from foreign influences

Alan Schmidt's avatar

I honestly don't know much about them, so I'm going from the little I know.

Public displays like their flash mobs are counterproductive as they are only useful to show mass institutional or public support. They don't have this yet.

They do a good amount of charity work for whites where the government fails though, which is exactly how you create loyalty. You show the average man you have his back when everyone else walks away.

Louis Wain's avatar

You should watch this when you get a chance just came out https://youtu.be/w37LnHu_L_8?si=YaKhlKnq3vqPZTMo

Tom Pauken's avatar

You mention the Black Panthers and their relationship with Leftists. It reminded me of Tom Wolfe's great article in New York magazine about the party Leonard Beinstein threw for the Black Panthers at his home. Hilarious. By the way, in addition to James Burnham, you should read another great American thinker, Willmoore Kendall, Buckley’s teacher at Yale.

Spiff's avatar

Found in the short volume, Radical Chic & Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers. Available anywhere. Utterly hilarious roasting of New York's idle rich and their flirtation with radical socialism mixed with racial tension. Astonishing stuff.

Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers even more so as it describes minorities fleecing the government and terrorizing its white bureaucrats. I am amazed it hasn't been edited for modernity.