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Reckoning's avatar

I think that right now there aren’t a lot of people out there mentoring young men, such as siblings, cousins, family friends, coaches… so I think a lot of young men are missing the boat in terms of relationships (as are women, I’m sure).

At least the internet offers more education and possibilities if someone’s immediate circle is lacking. So that’s a small beacon of hope.

A few years ago, an Australian Catholic female journalist caused a small fuss by writing articles complaining that Catholic men aren’t worldly wise enough. She still has a blog. No sign of marriage, although I suppose she could be keeping it private.

https://www.catholicweekly.com.au/for-want-of-a-lot-of-good-men/

I also recall that a decade ago the young Catholic women on Facebook were posting “Catholic Ryan Gosling” memes, although he isn’t Catholic. So women can have unrealistic standards, too.

I think that a young man who is shy and not very forward will seem like weak sauce to women today. Sometimes couples need an outside push, but those influences don’t exist today.

I don’t think it’s reasonable or natural to push young people into a very wide world and expect them to find mates with little guidance or support, but that’s the world we live in today.

Servetus's avatar

Some of the key issues I see on both sides are:

1. As a man there's little to no assurance that a woman is actually virtuous. It's all too common for a decent man to be denied sex by a girl that's sleeping around with more attractive/bad boys.

2. Feeds into 1, there is a lack of vetting and social proof on both sides. A woman's friends especially and a man's friends also will be on their side and help them out rather than enforce any moral standards. The community around people also rarely enforces standards of temperance so you're really just left with what you can observe and dig up about a prospect on social media.

3. Feeds into 2, the vast majority of young people are opposed to traditional structures that established and held relationships together like matchmaking and family involvement or the highly-successful arranged marriage. The problem exists on every level, not one locus: the people seeking marriage aren't on board, the community isn't on board, and the cultural norms are strongly opposed. There are exceptions but they're rare, at least in the US.

4. A general issue of human nature, trying to revive something old just isn't exciting or compelling especially in a culture that values progress for the sake of progress. Going backwards is never gonna be popular and one of the critical cornerstones of restoring traditional marriage is to completely reject feminism which even conservatives do not agree with.

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